tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6727975.post6565690259913160960..comments2024-03-25T16:30:58.213+13:00Comments on GREENIE WATCH: JRhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00829082699850674281noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6727975.post-1049785732640304882009-10-15T09:23:11.593+13:002009-10-15T09:23:11.593+13:00"'zero waste' policy could lead up to...<i>"'zero waste' policy could lead up to five-bin headache"</i> <br /> <br />Optimist. Last year there was an article about a Japanese vilage that went with "zero" waste. Once a week residents take their trash to the town centre and sort it into over 100 bins. True, there are such things as a bin solely for used razor blades, but this is the way such nonsense is trending.John Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00801684602403824157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6727975.post-62493316510772162562009-10-15T02:57:34.047+13:002009-10-15T02:57:34.047+13:00Tree rings? Wait a second. Temperature effects tre...Tree rings? Wait a second. Temperature effects trees...uh...somewhat, I guess. Which way might depend on the species. It's not like heat makes them grow faster because heat makes chemistry go faster! They are living organisms. <br /><br />But what DOES make trees grow faster, in a very direct manner?<br /><br />Fertilizer in the form of CO2!<br /><br />So if CO2 spikes in the modern era, as we know it indeed does, then tree rings will suddenly start going crazy.<br /><br />So you would have to subtract out the effect of CO2 on tree growth if you are ever to use tree rings to compare old temperatures with modern era ones.<br /><br />To measure the plant fertilizing effect of CO2 and then call that signal "temperature" is very odd indeed!<br /><br />Trees are PLANTS!! You can't use trees, thus, to measure the effect of CO2 on the atmosphere and the oceans since trees themselves respond to CO2. Right?<br /><br />What else could you measure besides CO2 itself that is so utterly and completely a measure *of* CO2 itself?!<br /><br />I have heard that tree rings are not just temperature proxies, but rely also on rainfall. Yeah, whatever. In the PAST, fine. But if the UPTURN is made to also rely on tree rings and the theory is that that upturn is due to plant fertilizer, then it becomes comical.<br /><br />Just substitute "CO2" with "plant food" to make claims seem quite silly:<br /><br />"Due to rising amounts of atmospheric plant food, tree rings have been getting larger each year. This means temperature is going up." <br /><br />-=NikFromNYC=-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com